Gwoli wyjasnienia dla reszty forumowiczow, czym jest wspolczesny faszyzm:
http://www.themodernword.com/eco/eco_blackshirt.html
(fragmenty)
Umberto Eco:
In spite of some fuzziness regarding the difference between various historical forms of fascism, I think it is possible to outline a list of features that are typical of what I would like to call Ur-Fascism, or Eternal Fascism. These features cannot be organized into a system; many of them contradict each other, and are also typical of other kinds of despotism or fanaticism. But it is enough that one of them be present to allow fascism to coagulate around it.
* * *
1. The first feature of Ur-Fascism is the cult of tradition.
This new culture had to be syncretistic. Syncretism is not only, as the dictionary says, "the combination of different forms of belief or practice;" such a combination must tolerate contradictions. Each of the original messages contains a sliver of wisdom, and although they seem to say different or incompatible things, they all are nevertheless alluding, allegorically, to the same primeval truth.
2. Traditionalism implies the rejection of modernism.
The rejection of the modern world was disguised as a rebuttal of the capitalistic way of life. The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.
3. Irrationalism also depends on the cult of action for action's sake.
Distrust of the intellectual world has always been a symptom of Ur-Fascism, from Hermann Goering's fondness for a phrase from a Hanns Johst play ("When I hear the word 'culture' I reach for my gun") to the frequent use of such expressions as "degenerate intellectuals," "eggheads," "effete snobs," and "universities are nests of reds."The official Fascist intellectuals were mainly engaged in attacking modern culture and the liberal intelligentsia for having betrayed traditional values.
ps. "wyksztalciuchy", my stoimy tu a tam ZOMO - "kaczyzm"
4. The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism.
In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge. For Ur-Fascism, disagreement is treason.
5. Besides, disagreement is a sign of diversity.
Ur-Fascism grows up and seeks consensus by exploiting and exacerbating the natural fear of difference. The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.
6. Ur-Fascism derives from individual or social frustration.
7. To people who feel deprived of a clear social identity, Ur-Fascism says that their only privilege is the most common one, to be born in the same country.
Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged. The easiest way to solve the plot is the appeal to xenophobia. But the plot must also come from the inside: Jews are usually the best target
ps. "brukselska zydo-masoneria" oraz wszechmocny "uklad" - kaczyzm
8. The followers must feel humiliated by the ostentatious wealth and force of their enemies.
However, the followers of Ur-Fascism must also be convinced that they can overwhelm the enemies. Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak
ps. uklad jest "wszechmocny" ale rezim Kaczynskich go zlamie.
9. For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.
Thus pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. It is bad because life is permanent warfare.
10. Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology, insofar as it is fundamentally aristocratic, and aristocratic and militaristic elitism cruelly implies contempt for the weak
In fact, the Leader, knowing that his power was not delegated to him democratically but was conquered by force, also knows that his force is based upon the weakness of the masses; they are so weak as to need and deserve a ruler.
11. In such a perspective everybody is educated to become a hero.
12. Since both permanent war and heroism are difficult games to play, the Ur-Fascist transfers his will to power to sexual matters.
This is the origin of machismo (which implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality. Since even seksik is a difficult game to play, the Ur-Fascist hero tends to play with weapons -- doing so becomes an ersatz phallic exercise.
13. Ur-Fascism is based upon a selective populism, a qualitative populism, one might say.
Because of its qualitative populism, Ur-Fascism must be against "rotten" parliamentary governments. Wherever a politician casts doubt on the legitimacy of a parliament because it no longer represents the Voice of the People, we can smell Ur-Fascism.
ps. budowa "IV RP", jako ze III byla "rotten"
14. Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak.
Newspeak was invented by Orwell, in Nineteen Eighty-Four, as the official language of what he called Ingsoc, English Socialism. But elements of Ur-Fascism are common to different forms of dictatorship. All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning
ps przyklady nowomowy: przeciwnicy polityczni - "ZOMO, Uklad", aborcja - "zabijanie nienarodzonych", "inteligencja" - wyksztalciuchy, osoby o wartosciach liberalnych - "toleraly".
Zachecam do przestudiowania calego artykulu. Faszyzm jest bowiem wciaz, pod nowymi maskami obecny w zyciu politycznym.
http://www.themodernword.com/eco/eco_blackshirt.html
(fragmenty)
Umberto Eco:
In spite of some fuzziness regarding the difference between various historical forms of fascism, I think it is possible to outline a list of features that are typical of what I would like to call Ur-Fascism, or Eternal Fascism. These features cannot be organized into a system; many of them contradict each other, and are also typical of other kinds of despotism or fanaticism. But it is enough that one of them be present to allow fascism to coagulate around it.
* * *
1. The first feature of Ur-Fascism is the cult of tradition.
This new culture had to be syncretistic. Syncretism is not only, as the dictionary says, "the combination of different forms of belief or practice;" such a combination must tolerate contradictions. Each of the original messages contains a sliver of wisdom, and although they seem to say different or incompatible things, they all are nevertheless alluding, allegorically, to the same primeval truth.
2. Traditionalism implies the rejection of modernism.
The rejection of the modern world was disguised as a rebuttal of the capitalistic way of life. The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.
3. Irrationalism also depends on the cult of action for action's sake.
Distrust of the intellectual world has always been a symptom of Ur-Fascism, from Hermann Goering's fondness for a phrase from a Hanns Johst play ("When I hear the word 'culture' I reach for my gun") to the frequent use of such expressions as "degenerate intellectuals," "eggheads," "effete snobs," and "universities are nests of reds."The official Fascist intellectuals were mainly engaged in attacking modern culture and the liberal intelligentsia for having betrayed traditional values.
ps. "wyksztalciuchy", my stoimy tu a tam ZOMO - "kaczyzm"
4. The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism.
In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge. For Ur-Fascism, disagreement is treason.
5. Besides, disagreement is a sign of diversity.
Ur-Fascism grows up and seeks consensus by exploiting and exacerbating the natural fear of difference. The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.
6. Ur-Fascism derives from individual or social frustration.
7. To people who feel deprived of a clear social identity, Ur-Fascism says that their only privilege is the most common one, to be born in the same country.
Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged. The easiest way to solve the plot is the appeal to xenophobia. But the plot must also come from the inside: Jews are usually the best target
ps. "brukselska zydo-masoneria" oraz wszechmocny "uklad" - kaczyzm
8. The followers must feel humiliated by the ostentatious wealth and force of their enemies.
However, the followers of Ur-Fascism must also be convinced that they can overwhelm the enemies. Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak
ps. uklad jest "wszechmocny" ale rezim Kaczynskich go zlamie.
9. For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.
Thus pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. It is bad because life is permanent warfare.
10. Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology, insofar as it is fundamentally aristocratic, and aristocratic and militaristic elitism cruelly implies contempt for the weak
In fact, the Leader, knowing that his power was not delegated to him democratically but was conquered by force, also knows that his force is based upon the weakness of the masses; they are so weak as to need and deserve a ruler.
11. In such a perspective everybody is educated to become a hero.
12. Since both permanent war and heroism are difficult games to play, the Ur-Fascist transfers his will to power to sexual matters.
This is the origin of machismo (which implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality. Since even seksik is a difficult game to play, the Ur-Fascist hero tends to play with weapons -- doing so becomes an ersatz phallic exercise.
13. Ur-Fascism is based upon a selective populism, a qualitative populism, one might say.
Because of its qualitative populism, Ur-Fascism must be against "rotten" parliamentary governments. Wherever a politician casts doubt on the legitimacy of a parliament because it no longer represents the Voice of the People, we can smell Ur-Fascism.
ps. budowa "IV RP", jako ze III byla "rotten"
14. Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak.
Newspeak was invented by Orwell, in Nineteen Eighty-Four, as the official language of what he called Ingsoc, English Socialism. But elements of Ur-Fascism are common to different forms of dictatorship. All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning
ps przyklady nowomowy: przeciwnicy polityczni - "ZOMO, Uklad", aborcja - "zabijanie nienarodzonych", "inteligencja" - wyksztalciuchy, osoby o wartosciach liberalnych - "toleraly".
Zachecam do przestudiowania calego artykulu. Faszyzm jest bowiem wciaz, pod nowymi maskami obecny w zyciu politycznym.
Ostatnio zmieniony 21 lip 2008 21:46 przez MarcFloyd, łącznie zmieniany 1 raz.
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ale belkot, nie mow mi, ze ten facet jest dla Ciebie autorytetem, bo pisze takie bzdury, ze szkoda czytac - ale polecam, niech kazdy chetny zapozna sie z tym textem i wyciagnie wnioski jakie z niego plyna - faszyzm to przestrzeganie obiektywnych norm i praw naturalnych, odroznianie obiektywnego dobra i zla, odroznianie normalnosci od szalenstwa, itd. facet pomieszal to wszystko z ewidentnie faszystowskimi postawami typu - irracjonalizm, totalniactwo, korporacjonizm, etc. i mu wyszedl niezly belkot. Nie popisales sie macfloyd, ten kolezka juz na samym wstepie zaznacza, ze faszyzm jest przeciwny modernistycznemu belkotowi, bo to co sam pisze to wlasnie modernistyczny belkot, czyli pomieszanie z poplataniem, ktore "madrze" brzmi dla analfabety.MarcFloyd pisze:Gwoli wyjasnienia dla reszty forumowiczow, czym jest wspolczesny faszyzm:
http://www.themodernword.com/eco/eco_blackshirt.html
(fragmenty)
Umberto Eco:
In spite of some fuzziness regarding the difference between various historical forms of fascism, I think it is possible to outline a list of features that are typical of what I would like to call Ur-Fascism, or Eternal Fascism. These features cannot be organized into a system; many of them contradict each other, and are also typical of other kinds of despotism or fanaticism. But it is enough that one of them be present to allow fascism to coagulate around it.
* * *
1. The first feature of Ur-Fascism is the cult of tradition.
This new culture had to be syncretistic. Syncretism is not only, as the dictionary says, "the combination of different forms of belief or practice;" such a combination must tolerate contradictions. Each of the original messages contains a sliver of wisdom, and although they seem to say different or incompatible things, they all are nevertheless alluding, allegorically, to the same primeval truth.
2. Traditionalism implies the rejection of modernism.
The rejection of the modern world was disguised as a rebuttal of the capitalistic way of life. The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.
3. Irrationalism also depends on the cult of action for action's sake.
Distrust of the intellectual world has always been a symptom of Ur-Fascism, from Hermann Goering's fondness for a phrase from a Hanns Johst play ("When I hear the word 'culture' I reach for my gun") to the frequent use of such expressions as "degenerate intellectuals," "eggheads," "effete snobs," and "universities are nests of reds."The official Fascist intellectuals were mainly engaged in attacking modern culture and the liberal intelligentsia for having betrayed traditional values.
ps. "wyksztalciuchy", my stoimy tu a tam ZOMO - "kaczyzm"
4. The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism.
In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge. For Ur-Fascism, disagreement is treason.
5. Besides, disagreement is a sign of diversity.
Ur-Fascism grows up and seeks consensus by exploiting and exacerbating the natural fear of difference. The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.
6. Ur-Fascism derives from individual or social frustration.
7. To people who feel deprived of a clear social identity, Ur-Fascism says that their only privilege is the most common one, to be born in the same country.
Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged. The easiest way to solve the plot is the appeal to xenophobia. But the plot must also come from the inside: Jews are usually the best target
ps. "brukselska zydo-masoneria" oraz wszechmocny "uklad" - kaczyzm
8. The followers must feel humiliated by the ostentatious wealth and force of their enemies.
However, the followers of Ur-Fascism must also be convinced that they can overwhelm the enemies. Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak
ps. uklad jest "wszechmocny" ale rezim Kaczynskich go zlamie.
9. For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.
Thus pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. It is bad because life is permanent warfare.
10. Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology, insofar as it is fundamentally aristocratic, and aristocratic and militaristic elitism cruelly implies contempt for the weak
In fact, the Leader, knowing that his power was not delegated to him democratically but was conquered by force, also knows that his force is based upon the weakness of the masses; they are so weak as to need and deserve a ruler.
11. In such a perspective everybody is educated to become a hero.
12. Since both permanent war and heroism are difficult games to play, the Ur-Fascist transfers his will to power to sexual matters.
This is the origin of machismo (which implies both disdain for women and). Since even seksik is a difficult game to play, the Ur-Fascist hero tends to play with weapons -- doing so becomes an ersatz phallic exercise.intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality
13. Ur-Fascism is based upon a selective populism, a qualitative populism, one might say.
Because of its qualitative populism, Ur-Fascism must be against "rotten" parliamentary governments. Wherever a politician casts doubt on the legitimacy of a parliament because it no longer represents the Voice of the People, we can smell Ur-Fascism.
ps. budowa "IV RP", jako ze III byla "rotten"
14. Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak.
Newspeak was invented by Orwell, in Nineteen Eighty-Four, as the official language of what he called Ingsoc, English Socialism. But elements of Ur-Fascism are common to different forms of dictatorship. All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning
ps przyklady nowomowy: przeciwnicy polityczni - "ZOMO, Uklad", aborcja - "zabijanie nienarodzonych", "inteligencja" - wyksztalciuchy, osoby o wartosciach liberalnych - "toleraly".
Zachecam do przestudiowania calego artykulu. Faszyzm jest bowiem wciaz, pod nowymi maskami obecny w zyciu politycznym.
wez sie rozejzyj dookola i popatrz jakie dzieci wyrastaja chowane wedle przykazan "wolnosci i braku norm" - maja sieczke w glowie, nikogo nie szanuja, mysla tylko o wlasnej dupie, pajace z "big brothera" to oczywiscie extremum bezmyslnosci, ale do tego extremum sie rowna cala reszte wyzbyta wszelkiego rozsadku i zahamowan. ladna przyszlosc nam gotujecie "postempowcy"...
user940736 pisze:Ty mi sie tu nie wymonrdzaj, angielski znam, tylko nie ufam tej definicji, bo zaciemnia obraz sytuacji - faszyzm, nazizm i komunizm z jednej matki - Rewolucji Francuskiej. lewicowej do szpiku kosci.
Jestes smieszny, jak wiekszosc polskich naziolkow. Powiedz mi, co was tak boli w nazywaniu waszych pogladow po imieniu?
To co piszesz jest sprzeczne z miedzynarodowa, uznana klasyfikacja. Moze zaczniesz sobie sam definiowac np. pojecia matematyczne? Bo egzamin z politologii oblalbys, misiu
user940736 pisze:smieszne, czy raczej tragiczne jest to, ze ta Twoja "wolnosc osobista" kosztuje kogos zycie.
czyje zycie, misiu? Powiedz mi jak moze umrzec ktos kogo nie ma?
user940736 pisze:co do "homofobii" - to sorry, ale jak facet obciaga facetowi to jest dnem i zerem, wyzbytym wszelkiej godnosci
Coz, ja powiedzialbym ze kobieta ktora znajac twoje poglady idzie z toba do lozka jest prawdopodobnie koprofilka
user940736 pisze:MarcFloyd napisał: pisze:Wiele mi wiadomo o mordowaniu Zydow w czasie wojny przez tych "patriotow" z NSZ. Poza tym nie widze zwiazku pomiedzy narodowowscia a wykonywana praca. Btw: "polskich" z malej litery, ty "patrioto" od siedmiu bolesci.
bajki
A teraz mnie wk...,. Poczytaj sobie o wyczynach twoich ideowych kumpli:
On July 8, 1945, attackers said to belong to the
underground NSZ killed three of eight Jews in Opoczno, Lodz province,
including thirty-two-year-old David Mandelbaum, an Auschwitz survivor who
had just returned to town.The entire Jewish community of Lezajsk, near
Rzeszow, appears to have been liquidated altogether on August 7, 1945,
when, in what was evidently the deadliest single outbreak of anti-Jewish
violence before the Kielce pogrom, sixteen Jews were blown up by a bomb
planted under the house that they all shared.
Lack of discrimination in choosing Jewish victims was demonstrated in
other ways as well. For example, an order from the NSZ central command to district commanders, dated March 25, 1945, recommended certain elements of the population for "swift execution: 1. German and Soviet spies (working for the NKVD); 2. the more capable among those working for the Polish Workers Party and PKWN workers who have declared their membership; 3. all Jews and Jewesses; 4. all those who hid Jews during the German occupation...." In other words, where only those Poles who had committed certain clearly defined acts were to be attacked, all Jews were to be set upon, no matter what evidence they had given of communist sympathies.
(...)
In June-July 1946, eleven different incidents were
recorded in which armed uniformed bands stopped trains in stations or on
isolated tracks, selected Jews from among the passengers, dragged them off into the surrounding woods, and murdered them
Umiesz czytac, gloryfikatorze faszystow?
Ostatnio zmieniony 21 lip 2008 21:53 przez MarcFloyd, łącznie zmieniany 1 raz.
user940736 pisze:ale belkot, nie mow mi, ze ten facet jest dla Ciebie autorytetem, bo pisze takie bzdury, ze szkoda czytac
Generalnie proponuje zebys przestal czytac cokolwiek bo i tak nie wyciagasz z tego zadnych wnioskow. Dyskusja z toba jest strata czasu.
Posluchaj, naziolku:
1. Faszyzm (i nazizm jako jego czesc) jest czescia politycznej prawicy wg. klasyfikacji miedzynarodowej. Wali mnie czy ulozysz sobie jakas "weszpolacka" klasyfikacje tego terminu wedlug ktorej faszyzm bedzie lewicowy; wedlug ciebie moze byc nawet marsjanski ale poki nie zotaniesz swiatowej slawy politologiem to nie ty ustalasz znaczenie terminow.
2. Twoja mieszanka pogladow wylozona w postach klasyfikuje cie jako faszyste, a biorac pod uwage twoj antysemityzm i zaprzeczanie zbrodniom popelnionym na Zydach byc moze neonaziste (jesli do mieszanki twoich pogladow dochodzi gloryfikowanie bialej rasy baredziej niz panstwa).
I znowu wali mnie to co ty na ten temat sadzisz - wez sobie opis wspolczesnego faszyzmu i sprawdz czy czasem twoje poglady nie spelniaja jego przeslanek.
Ostatnio zmieniony 21 lip 2008 21:52 przez MarcFloyd, łącznie zmieniany 1 raz.
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user940736
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sluchaj (czytaj) - po tym belkocie Eco, to juz mam pelny obraz sytuacji - ten text "wiaze rece" i sprawia, ze wszelka dyskusja jest niemozliwa. zdawania egzaminu z politologii nie mam ambicji, bo najwidoczniej musialbym sobie wyprac mozg i wyzbyc sie zdrowego rozsadku, zeby uczynic zadosc wymogom politycznej poprawnosci, bo o wiedze tam w takim wypadku nie chodzi, tylko potakiwanie gremiom mondrali naginajacych historie i polityke do potrzeb propagandowych.MarcFloyd pisze:user940736 pisze:Ty mi sie tu nie wymonrdzaj, angielski znam, tylko nie ufam tej definicji, bo zaciemnia obraz sytuacji - faszyzm, nazizm i komunizm z jednej matki - Rewolucji Francuskiej. lewicowej do szpiku kosci.
Jestes smieszny, jak wiekszosc polskich naziolkow. Powiedz mi, co was tak boli w nazywaniu waszych pogladow po imieniu?
To co piszesz jest sprzeczne z miedzynarodowa, uznana klasyfikacja. Moze zaczniesz sobie sam definiowac np. pojecia matematyczne? Bo egzamin z politologii oblalbys, misiuuser940736 pisze:smieszne, czy raczej tragiczne jest to, ze ta Twoja "wolnosc osobista" kosztuje kogos zycie.
czyje zycie, misiu? Powiedz mi jak moze umrzec ktos kogo nie ma?user940736 pisze:co do "homofobii" - to sorry, ale jak facet obciaga facetowi to jest dnem i zerem, wyzbytym wszelkiej godnosci
Coz, ja powiedzialbym ze kobieta ktora znajac twoje poglady idzie z toba do lozka jest prawdopodobnie koprofilka
user940736 pisze:MarcFloyd napisał: pisze:Wiele mi wiadomo o mordowaniu Zydow w czasie wojny przez tych "patriotow" z NSZ. Poza tym nie widze zwiazku pomiedzy narodowowscia a wykonywana praca. Btw: "polskich" z malej litery, ty "patrioto" od siedmiu bolesci.
bajki
A teraz mnie wk...,. Poczytaj sobie o wyczynach twoich ideowych kumpli:On July 8, 1945, attackers said to belong to the
underground NSZ killed three of eight Jews in Opoczno, Lodz province,
including thirty-two-year-old David Mandelbaum, an Auschwitz survivor who
had just returned to town.The entire Jewish community of Lezajsk, near
Rzeszow, appears to have been liquidated altogether on August 7, 1945,
when, in what was evidently the deadliest single outbreak of anti-Jewish
violence before the Kielce pogrom, sixteen Jews were blown up by a bomb
planted under the house that they all shared.
Lack of discrimination in choosing Jewish victims was demonstrated in
other ways as well. For example, an order from the NSZ central command to district commanders, dated March 25, 1945, recommended certain elements of the population for "swift execution: 1. German and Soviet spies (working for the NKVD); 2. the more capable among those working for the Polish Workers Party and PKWN workers who have declared their membership; 3. all Jews and Jewesses; 4. all those who hid Jews during the German occupation...." In other words, where only those Poles who had committed certain clearly defined acts were to be attacked, all Jews were to be set upon, no matter what evidence they had given of communist sympathies.
(...)
In June-July 1946, eleven different incidents were
recorded in which armed uniformed bands stopped trains in stations or on
isolated tracks, selected Jews from among the passengers, dragged them off into the surrounding woods, and murdered them
Umiesz czytac, gloryfikatorze faszystow?
jesli chodzi o dziecko w lonie matki, to nie wszyscy ulegaja presji politpoprawnych i prowadza badania, ktore wyraznie dowodza, ze ludzka pamiec siega nawet momentu zaplodnienia, wtedy powstaje niepowtarzalna jednostka - nie chcesz tego przyjmowac do wiadomosci - Twoja brocha - nawet jestem sklonny uznac, ze jest to pozyteczne kiedy wyskrobujesz Swoich potomkow, im mniej marcfloydow tym lepiej. od moich kobiet, a raczej - kobiety - jednej, trzymaj sie z daleka, bo dostaniesz w ryj, nawet chamstwo ma swoje granice, ja Twojej kobiety nie tykam, dyskutuj jak facet a nie rozhisteryzowana panienka bez hamulcow. co do "antysemityzmu" w Polsce - no coz, juz udowodniles, ze bardziej niz fakty licza sie dla ciebie "ogolne wrazenia" i "kontext", wiec dyskusje uwazam za skonczona.
na dzis masz spokoj, mozesz odmaszerowac.
user940736 pisze:sluchaj (czytaj) - po tym belkocie Eco, to juz mam pelny obraz sytuacji - ten text "wiaze rece" i sprawia, ze wszelka dyskusja jest niemozliwa.
Nie, misiu. Ten tekst jest definicja wspolczesnego faszyzmu, wspolczesnych pogladow faszystowskich. Czyzbys znalazl tam wlasne ze cie to tak zirytowalo?
user940736 pisze:zdawania egzaminu z politologii nie mam ambicji,
...i cale szczescie
user940736 pisze:bo najwidoczniej musialbym sobie wyprac mozg i wyzbyc sie zdrowego rozsadku,
Misiu, na pierwsze juz za pozno, drugim sie nie wykazales ani razu podczas dyskusji
user940736 pisze:potakiwanie gremiom mondrali
Madrali, misiu. Ortograficzny tez ci kupic?
user940736 pisze:jesli chodzi o dziecko w lonie matki, to nie wszyscy ulegaja presji politpoprawnych i prowadza badania, ktore wyraznie dowodza, ze ludzka pamiec siega nawet momentu zaplodnienia
hehehehheeee. Teraz mnie rozbawiles misiu
A pamietasz tez jak kapales tatusiowi z fujarki czy olsnienie przyszlo jak juz wygrales wyscig i wbiles sie w jajo? user940736 pisze:od moich kobiet, a raczej - kobiety - jednej, trzymaj sie z daleka,
Oj, misiu, zabolalo? Wiesz, zapewne tak samo poczuli sie homoseksualni uzytkownicy forum jak przeczytali twoje chamskie wynurzenia o tym jakimi to sa dnami i zerami. Zacznij szanowac orientacje innych jesli chcesz byc szanowany. To wlasnie mial ci uzmyslowic moj tekst.
Ps. mnie nie musisz, mnie to wali, od czegos co wlasnie wylazlo z jaskini oczekuje raczej dobrej zabawy.
Btw. nazwanie jej koprofilka jesli sie z toba zadaje nie swiadczylo zle o niej tylko o tobie
Masz ze dwie komorki zeby to zlapac? user940736 pisze:bo dostaniesz w ryj, ,
Uuuuuuuu, teraz to juz naprawde zaczalem sie bac
user940736 pisze: co do "antysemityzmu" w Polsce - no coz, juz udowodniles, ze bardziej niz fakty licza sie dla ciebie "ogolne wrazenia" i "kontext", wiec dyskusje uwazam za skonczona.
Tez tak mysle, misiu, skoro fakty o tym iz twoi nazistowscy idole mordowali Zydow ci sie nie podobaja to dyskusje uwazasz za zakonczona
user940736 pisze:na dzis masz spokoj, mozesz odmaszerowac.
Raczki na koldrze misiu, pamietaj ze kazdy plemnik to zycie nienarodzone
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user1176149 pisze:Eh lepiej zarabiac pieniadze niz to czytac i ja mam sie udzielac na forum? Phi.
Najlepiej zarabiaj pieniadze czytajac
Coz, raczej staram sie unikac pyskowek ale ten pan odzywa sie co kilka miesiecy, a ze jest wyjatkowo "stubborn" (ukladanie na nowo miedzynarodowej terminologii jak i zaprzeczanie mordom popelnianych przez faszystow to dosc skrajny przypadek) to i dyskusja odzywa za kazdym razem od nowa.
Przykro ze akurat w twoim temacie, tak bywa
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gherbid pisze:A kto mówi o kredycie? Po 9 miesiącach kontraktów mam na koncie 9 tysięcy tych znienawidzonych przez ciebie funtów. Więc po co mi kredyt, Mervin?
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